Okay. I have a wonderful guest for you today. This is Karen Urbanek from Karen’s Energy. And many of you know, she has an amazing story, and she’s got a lot that she can teach you today about energy because, I figured, we might as well talk about energy with somebody whose store’s name is Karen’s Energy.
Considering that many patients have very little energy and they actually want a lot more energy, this might be a very interesting interview for you. So she has a lot of hope to offer you today, and I’m just going let her tell you a little bit about her store, Karen’s Energy, and how it started and what it does and where she got the name.
Karen: Well, thank you Dr. A. Karen’s Energy, well, we actually originally started as Nature’s Garden Health Center out in Wisconsin. And then our… media guru, our IT guy, Mike—Hi, Mike—he was like, “Hey, Karen. We got to change name. Let’s go like with something snappy.” And he came up with Karen’s Energy. And so that stuck. And so we just have Karen’s energy.
Dr. A: So how did you get the idea to start the business in the first place?
Karen: Well, I started teaching classes on herbs and classes on cooking. Then people were saying, “Where do I get all this stuff?” I had to drive an hour and a half, one way to an Amish Store to get some things. I had to go to Chicago to get other things. Then things that I had to, you know, get shipped in. I was like, “Darn it. I should just have the store.” And so I said, “Well, I’ll just start a little store.” And then people started coming. And literally, we opened Nature’s Garden Health Center in a city of four hundred people in the middle of a farm field in an old renovated Catholic property.
And so literally, people would drive for four hours to come to our store because we were the only completely 100% non-GMO store in Wisconsin. And we are all organic. We have made our own tinctures. We have our own fresh spices. We made our own food in our licensed kitchen, and so we since have moved in Wisconsin, we still have that property. Actually, we have a large educational center on that property where people fly in and we do a lot of seminars on weekends. And… And therapeutic nutritional counseling courses but then also, we opened up a place in West Bend, Wisconsin. So it’s a little larger on the main road. So it’s kind of fun and exciting.
Dr. A: I’m going to go back in time a little farther then. How on earth did you start teaching classes?
Karen: Well, because people wanted to learn how to make my bread. I made really great whole wheat ground up fresh bread. And then people wanted to learn how to make my soups. And then they wanted to learn how I was healing my family with homeopathy which they had never heard of. And then they just… People just kept wanting to know, so I kept just putting out more classes and putting out more classes. I would get hundreds of people that would come to these little classes and just learning about herbs and learning about food, and that’s when it kind of transpired. Then when we actually had the store in front, it was fun because then we could advertise to all the people, the classes are coming up. I would have 40-50 people in the basement of that church every single Thursday afternoon or Thursday evening, taking these classes. It was really fun. It was just great.
Dr. A: So how’d your life change then?
Karen: Well… Well, I’ve actually had the great pleasure of speaking to tens of thousands of people across the country now, and in webinar formats, and outside the country. So I guess life has changed in that, we see people like learning, people like being empowered, so they can make changes in their life, and we’ve been able to watch a lot of people get really well.
Dr. A: I see your book here on the counter. Is that kind of a combination of your life’s work or is this a part of a series?
Karen: Well, it’s part of a series. We actually have a couple more books coming out this year, but “Live with Outrageous Energy: Thrive without Fears, Sickness and Disease.” That was a take off because … I had a pretty prominent class called “Live with Energy: Never be Sick Again” and… I gave that just all over. And thousands of people were like, “Where can I get this information? Where do you all have it written down? I said “Darn it. I’ll just write a book.” So I started writing a book, 10 years ago and It took about a year. Nine months to a year. I literally locked myself away in another building on our property and finished the book. It is extremely well researched, and it’s just a lot of fun. I’ve had great response, and the book is now in numerous countries. I just got an order for 10,000 in Arabic. Do you… Do you… Do you speak Arabic, Dr. Altman?
Dr. A: I do not. I have forgotten all of mine.
Karen: Well, if you know anybody who wants to translate it.
Dr. A: So… Where else can they get it?
Karen: I think they can get from Amazon, a little easier and it’s in English. Then we are translating it in Spanish, as well, right now. Then, they can come to one of our stores or order on our website.
Dr. A: Is there any other books that impacted your life or made a big change in your life.
Karen: Yeah, Dr. Christopher was an incredible herbiologist. So I love all his books. Dr. Mom is a fun book. She followed Dr. Christopher’s ways. Dr. Maurice is amazing. He has great videos and some phenomenal books. Love Bruce Lipton. He goes way out of the cell. But I love Candice Pert. I love a lot of the scientist. I love Tesla. I love studying things about frequencies. It’s just amazing, but frequency is everything. Frequency, the electrical circuits of the body, that’s what makes everything tick. So I’m pretty big into that.
Dr. A: So, if there’s one thing you could help people with, that say, “Hey, I need some more energy.” Where would they start looking?
Karen: Energy, Dr. Altman. They just have to spark it up a little bit, right?
Dr. A: I know. I know.
Karen: Sparky, come on! All energy, every single symptom I feel that’s wrong with any one, any animal or any human being, is a lack of minerals. Minerals are needed for every single action in the body because they carry an electrical current. The coolest part is minerals all come from the ground. You’ve put a plant in the ground. The roots go down. It sucks up these central elements with just rocks. You can have a hundred different minerals in one little rock. And as that rock goes out through system ,it goes through bio-transmutation. It becomes a mineral. Then you can eat the Kale. Eat the broccoli. Eat the tomato. And tadaa! You got minerals. And each one of those minerals has a different charge.
So every enzyme is dependent on it to be charged. It needs to be sparked, and so when people have something like… Like A-fib, “Oh. Oh. Oh, something’s wrong with my heart.” You know well, that’s like the body’s red light, like your blinking light on your car saying, “Hey, you need magnesium, dude.” You know, and you get magnesium, you’re A-fib’s goes away.
I mean your thyroid, you got an issue with your thyroid, “Oh my gosh, hypothyroidism.” Well, you need iodine because T4, the four stands for four molecules of iodine. So if you don’t take your iodine or you don’t eat your seaweed, then you don’t have iodine. So instead of going on to some Synthroid, why don’t you just take your iodine, you know? Because you can’t make T4, which is four-molecules-iodine, unless you have iodine in the body. So the body just is always sending out these… these… these symptoms, you know. And we have to look at a symptom as “Oh, what mineral is needed? What complex? What do I do to make my body actually work?” Phenomenal with energy.
Dr. A: It’s very true. And a lot of people don’t realize that there are toxic minerals and there are minerals that block even like iodine.
Dr. A: Chlorine, Fluorine, Bromine.
Karen: Yup. Yup. Yup.
Dr. A: People kind of get double trapped. And they don’t realize it. They’re actually getting worse simply by drinking tap water sometimes—
Dr. A: –and not eating the right foods. So…If you were perhaps ten years younger, what would you go back in time and tell yourself to do or change?
Karen: I would probably do more yoga. I love yoga. Yoga is like this way of meditation, relaxing the mind, getting oxygen in the body, releases built up drama in your life or whatever. I love yoga.
But, also just more minerals, minerals, minerals. I can’t get enough of minerals and learning about minerals and preaching about what minerals are. And I, you know, sometimes I look back 10 years ago, right before Lily was born, I’m like, “Oh man if I had only known”, if I only knew a little bit more about how sodium transfers and what’s going on at the cell level or phosphorous…” I mean it’s just… It’s just neat. Every—and actually my book, we spent hundreds and hours working on the mineral chart. We have a trace mineral chart and a macro mineral chart. And then we have vitamin… Vitamin chart as well.
So, if you’re looking, “Oh my gosh, you know what? I need to get some more selenium.” It tells you where to get it and what the benefits are. We actually made it so you can self-diagnose. So we went ahead and just put symptoms of mineral deficiencies. You can be like, “Wow. I have white finger nails, and I have dots or I have age spots.” And they all tell you, “Oh my gosh, you need this combination of minerals.” I guess, minerals are what I would have focused on 10 years ago and then breathing the oxygen with yoga, people just take such short breaths. They don’t combine their breaths. They don’t pause and enjoy life. They just work, work, work, work, stress, stress, stress, stress. And they fall asleep.
Dr. A: I know a lady who was just here. She doesn’t ever relax.
Dr. A: Never relaxes. I’m like, “When’s the last time you saw a sunset?” “Ah… never.”
Dr. A: She never shuts down. Never slows down.
Karen: And that’s her choice.
Dr. A: Oh, yeah… We have something to work on now.
Karen: Yeah, exactly. And… And she’ll have to, you know… That’s awesome. She got you.
Dr. A: Well, so the other problem that I see in the office is, 30 years old seems to be a break point for a lot of people, where after 30, people start paying attention. They’re like “Oh, wait. Maybe I do need to do more things, and I’m not invincible and struggle as someone 20 years old and maybe younger. But how do you reach those people? What would you say to somebody who comes out of college… I mean what could they do?
Karen: Well, I love college students. I speak a lot to college students. I love them. I love being in a room with a four-hundred auditorium-filled kids from college because they want to learn something. And they want to research and that’s the best thing, is when they understand why and how. That’s what they get so excited about. So like showing them and making them stand up and feel their transverse colon, and find dinner from last night, and rub their ileocecal valve and like learn where their liver is. It’s just so fun, because people don’t realize their just a machine.
They’re just this awesome machine and we need to take care of it, and when they understand what’s under the skin, I always think that Dr. Altman, I know it’s probably wouldn’t be the best for your line of work, but I really think that we should walk around with no skin. Because, if we have no skin on, we were like, “Dude, what is wrong with your appendix? It is like inflammed—Hey, honey your gallbladder is gonna burst man. You gotta do like a gallbladder flush.” I think we’d be more aware of what’s going on in our bodies if we actually saw this engine at work.
I think for a college student, it’s making each other educated. Heck, I was just at a middle school, at an auditorium full of 6-8th graders. I’m there, and I’m like, “Okay, guys. Let’s talk about the periodical table.” And I’m like “Okay, so what is K stands for? What is Mg stand for?” And they’re just shooting out the answers. And I’m going through the alphabet. And I’m like, “Okay, and what do they do in the body?” It’s like complete silence. So I’m like, “Do you need to eat those?” They had no idea. I reprimanded the science teacher because I’m like, “Dude, you did not teach your class.”
Who cares if they memorize the stupid periodical table, but they didn’t realize that you were supposed to eat those things. Well, don’t eat all of them. You’ll explode. But the basics… You know the basic minerals, you have to have them. “And this is what happens to your body, if you don’t have them. And this is what happens if you don’t have, you know, enough phosphorous.” People just aren’t educated. So educating the kids and getting them aware of it, then… because they wanted, they want to know more than adults, so while they think they know everything, teach them everything you know. To me, that’s the biggest thing we can do for our kids, is just educate them. It’s amazing.
Dr. A: One thing that I wish we could do more of is teach kids to cook, because a lot of kids who leave the house…don’t know how to cook anything with actual food, not like… A process food in the microwave.
Dr. A: That’s one thing I don’t know how fix in our world, but that’s just an area I see as a major issue with.
Dr. A: You seem very confident. Have you always been a confident person?
Karen: Confident, well I’m… I can hold my own pretty much anywhere. That I really believe now. I don’t think I always been this confident with health because when you first get in to it, “Oh, well, this is what I’m learning” and but applying it, gives confidence. And so now, I’ve… I’ve reversed my own epilepsy. I have associated with people who’ve gotten rid of narcolepsy, cancer, many… Many forms of cancer, most chronic diseases: diabetes, crohn’s, colitis. You name it. We’ve seen it get reversed. So if any doctor, no doctor can stand there and tell me that no one can get rid of diabetes because I’ll sit there and go, “Yes, they can…” All type 2 diabetes I’ve ever worked with is off of all their insulin within six weeks. And I didn’t do anything. I just educated them with what’s going on their pancreas.
“Here take some chromium. Make sure to eat your cinnamon. Stop eating grain.” And tadaa! You know. “Oh my gosh, my type 2 diabetes is gone.” It’s not rocket science, you know. Actually, rocket science is easy, by the way. It’s the first thing they learn. So I’m supposed to say, “It’s not neural science,” but anyhow, which I find almost amazing. Anyhow, so I think that confidence just comes from application. And so if people are nervous about making some changes, just make the stupid change and then… And then you’ll feel the confidence. So I’m confident, because it’s amazing to watch people heal and get well and become empowered and use homeopathy, use aromatherapy, use chiropractic care, use these natural forms of just making the body work. And that’s why I love chiropractic care, because you make the body work. You distribute the electrical charge to the neurons. You… And you make those pathways clear which is why chiropractic care is one of my top things I recommend. It’s absolutely amazing—minerals and chiropractic care and water.
Dr. A: I know. Most people are just funny because they don’t do a lot of the things that we would say are pretty basic. There’s so many things that you could do that aren’t very hard and people would feel amazing and that’s… That’s just a lot of education for some.
Karen: You know what I found Dr. Altman? Just drinking. I tell people drink two quarts of water by 2 o’clock and just see—how you feel. That alone, if people just did that, and they’re like, “Okay, what else you got?”
Dr. A: Yeah.
Karen: Because it works. They feel so great.
Dr. A: You can get rid about half of people’s pain if they’re just drinking enough water.
Karen: You’re right.
Dr. A: It’s actually a pain reducer.
Karen: Yup, because it conducts electricity. And then all of a sudden, you have a way to get your minerals, you know, through the whole body just so you’re eating them. So very important.
Dr. A: Yeah. So how… How would you define wellness then?
Karen: Wellness. I would describe wellness as waking up every morning and feeling like you could just jump out of bed you know like, “Oh my gosh, I’m gonna have a great day. I’m gonna have a great bowel movement. I’m gonna have great food. I’m gonna have great sex, whatever, I made with my husband or with my wife. I’m gonna just have a fantastic day and I have the energy to keep up with it.” So many people would get out of bed and the last thing their thinking about is you know how lucky they are to have a liver that’s functioning and they’re not thanking their heart and they’re not like wishing their spleen a happy good day. They’re focusing on their pain, or how they’re gonna get through the day, or they’re so lethargic, they can’t get out of bed because they’re full of candida and parasites.
And I think wellness is realizing I’m not well, realizing that, “Wait a minute. I don’t feel fantastic every day. And I should feel fantastic when I wake up. I should be…” And that’s what wellness is — feeling great. And the first step is I think to finding wellness, is realizing that maybe what you’re doing isn’t the right kind of wellness. So many people would come in and they’re like “Karen, I eat really, really well but I have these kidney stones last week. And then “Karen, I eat really, really well but I had this migraine that won’t go away” or “I got this pain down my leg,” you know so I had to go, Okay, So you’re not well. We have things going on. Go to the chiropractor, change your diet and guess what, you won’t have a migraine. You’ll never have kidney stones and you can get rid of your sciatic problems. So it’s one of those wellness is the first step… realizing that you’re not well. Then you can find wellness.
Dr. A: That’s actually very true because a lot of people actually don’t really know what their potential is.
Karen: You’re right.
Dr. A: We see people who have no idea how great they can feel because, they’ve totally lost touch with health, because it’s such a gradual slippery slope. It’s rarely a big hit where people go from awesome to terrible. It’s generally so slow. People don’t realize, and over the years, they forget. So that’s… A good point in trying to make people feel better but also to realize that “Hey—it’s possible.”
Dr. A: How would you define success then?
Karen: Oh, success is a big word. Success.
Dr. A: That’s part of what this podcast is, Success and wellness
Karen: Success and Wellness. Well, success comes, I think, from applying your confidence, but then also realizing that you never make a mistake. You might make a mistake but you don’t regret it. You learn from it. So success is watching your mistakes propel you forward. I like… I like the word shift. Shift happens, you know. You have to be open for shifting, because shifting doesn’t mean… Shifting doesn’t mean change. Shifting means you’re taking another direction. You have another vision. You’re gonna keep propelling forward and get rid of stagnant waters. So success is not sitting in stagnant water. That’s what success is.
Success is actually succeeding by learning from your mistakes and always propelling forward. When people stop propelling forward and they stop having visions and goals, they’re no longer successful. A successful person always has that and it drives them. And if you don’t have a driver, then you can’t be successful. So the visions, the goals, self-affirmations, whatever and minerals—because minerals are what spark you. You can’t become successful unless you’re doing something that sparks that.
Who defines success? Is success you know, living off of coffee, being exhausted but you’ve got 3 million buckets in the bank account, and you’re, you know, you’ve got all your everything paid for and unhealthy? That’s not successful because their health sucks. And they’re falling apart. That’s not… Success is well rounded. It’s all the way around. So you’re successful in your marriage because you and your husband can still, you know, you can still enjoy each other. And you can be 80 years old and still enjoying each other. That’s important. Successful is your kids respect you or you respect your kids. And most importantly, successful is giving more than you’ve taken. So I think success is really in the giving and not just in the taking. Successful people don’t just take, they give.
Dr. A: That’s very true advice. Every successful person I’ve ever listened to on interviews is it’s always about giving.
Karen: Always. Always.
Dr. A: Always about giving more. So we are gonna wrap this up here. But I have one more thing because you’re a very busy lady and I appreciate the time.
Dr. A: And what do you have coming up?
Karen: Sure. Well, with Karen’s Energy, we have Empowered weekends all over the country so fly in for one, you’ll love it. It’s 2 days of… Of incredible information on the nervous system, circulatory system, endocrine system–all about the body. And then also how to heal at home. We give a whole binder loaded of information. I even get my gemstone out… My gemstone chart out, which is totally cool, but I—we talk about a lot of different eastern modalities of healing. So some really cool stuff, and it just has been a lot of fun and then we’ve got two more books coming out this year, my ‘Living in RAWality’ and that is a cook book for the living and the dead because eating with living food and cooked food. And then we have the ‘A-Z Healing Guide’ that will be coming out too. It’s just like a naturopathic guide to how to heal a hundred different ailments at home in your kitchen or with just… visiting certain practitioners that aren’t medical. So it’s a pretty fun book. And then we’re working on another one which is… It’s… All about love. It’s called ‘Love: It’s a Cell Thing.’ It’s all about cells’ work and emotions’ work and how to forgive.
Dr. A: That’s really good stuff.
Karen: Yeah, it’s lot of fun… Got a lot of fun going on.
Dr. A: You also do classes here at the center in Utah?
Karen: Yeah, we do… I do some classes here in the center. I travel a lot doing classes so you can always check on ‘Karen’s Energy’ and ‘Where’s Karen.’ We do a lot in Vegas. I love Vegas. I have a bunch going on in Colorado, New York, Wisconsin because we have our center there in Wisconsin and then here. But even here in Utah Valley, if you’re listening in Utah Valley and you want me to come and speak to a business, a church association, anything… We do a lot of… A lot of in-home, large presentations.
Dr. A: Okay. That’s awesome. I will put those in the show notes.
Dr. A: Lots of people can link to… Your website.
Dr. A: And books and all your stuff and even classes.
Karen: Hey, come on over.
Dr. A: So I appreciate it. Thank you very much and I know you got to run and… Hopefully, we’ll have you on again.
Karen: You bet. You have an awesome day, Dr. A.
Dr. A: Thank you.